This week Lawrence and Derek talk about their adventures in the countryside and Lawrence’s long history of heritage crime. Their guest this week is curatorial legend and Twitter master Rob Symmons. Rob is the curator of Fishbourne Roman palace: the largest Roman building north of the alps! The trio discuss Rob’s career in ruins, from the early seeds of his interest in archaeology to the moment Tony Robinson took a stroll in Fishbourne’s hypocaust.

In this week’s episode Lawrence and Derek discuss the value of mentorship as well as the archaeological potential of shooting forests with drone-based lasers. Their guest this week is Time Team landscape superstar Professor Stewart Ainsworth. Stewart shares stories from his amazing and diverse career, from his work with the Ordnance Survey to his 20 years as a regular Sunday evening fixture on Channel 4.

In this week’s episode Lawrence and Derek get a graphic insight into an often overlooked aspect of heritage communication. The duo are joined by Neil Max Emmanuel, a Creative Motion Graphic Designer, Animator, Editor, Storyboard Artist, Cartoonist/Comic Artist, Children's Book Illustrator, and all round amazing guy. I’m archaeology Neil is best known for his work on Time Team, bringing the stories to life and adding a dynamic motion aspect to Victor Ambrus’ amazing artwork. He has also recently published “The Middle Ages: a graphic history” with Eleanor Janega. Derek, Lawrence and Neil discuss his unique career in ruins as well as a range of illustrative topics.

In this episode Derek and Lawrence chat to John Gater. John is an geophysicist who's had a long pioneering career in archaeology. He is best known says work on Time Team but was instrumental in the early commercial adoption of geophysics in archaeology having worked for companies such as British Gas and the English Heritage Ancient Monuments Laboratory as well as Bradford University Research. He also founded the company Geophysical Surveys of Bradford (GSB) before merging with the SUMO group. The trio discuss John career, including his stories of the earliest days of geophysics, before discussing the history of Time Team and sharing memories of their recent digs.

This week we catch up with brilliant Natalie Haynes. We find out how comedy has shaped her career in classics and how the classics have shaped her career in comedy. Full of laughs and insight, we learn what it takes to a have a successful Radio 4 comedy series, write columns in leading papers and have your novel short listed for the Women's Prize for Fiction. 

Natalie is a classicist, author and stand-up comedian as well as the host of Radio 4’s “Natalie Haynes Stands Up For the Classics” which is also available as a podcast. Natalie’s books include A Thousand Ships and Pandora’ Jar and have featured on numerous best seller lists. 

After popular demand we have added out new theme tune to our library as a surprise special gift for Spotify users. Add to your favorite playlist and listen whenever you like!


Theme tune by Charles Harrison based on the tune created by Guy Dowsett.

Welcome back to the first episode of this new season of Career in Ruins. It’s been six months since we last did a pod and my word have we been busy. This week our hosts, Derek and Lawrence, catch up on what they have been up to, address some of the amazing archaeology that has been on the telly box of late and interview the fantastic Dr Cat Jarman. Cat is bioarchaeologist and archaeologist specializing in using forensic techniques to understand past peoples. Her research involves vikings, diet, and mobility. Her book 'River Kings' was one of the Times' best history books of 2021. Cat can also be seen hosting the BBC's Digging for Britain and  Ancient Secrets of Althorp on Channel 4. 


Theme tune by Charles Harrison based on the tune created by Guy Dowsett (series sound engineer).  Logo created by Ed Hudspeth.

In this Festival of British Archaeology special Career in Ruins gets a significant upgrade as Lawrence is joined by Neil Redfern (CEO, Council for British Archaeology) with a special guest appearance by Matt Williams (Time Team legend and RSPB reserves archaeologist) in Derek’s absence. The podcast was recorded on-location at RSPB Arne where the team explore the importance of archaeology against the backdrop of this year’s festival theme “exploring local places”. Lawrence, Neil and Matt discuss the many ways to celebrate and enjoy natural and cultural heritage and the opportunities for archaeologists to share local and hidden heritage with the wider public.  

Hosted by Lawrence Shaw

Artwork by Ed Hudspeth

Sound production and theme tune by Guy Dowsett (

Dig4arch Special

In this Dig4arch special Derek and Lawrence talk to people behind the new campaign that aims to send a clear message that archaeology matters, Dr Chloë Duckworth (Newcastle University) and David Connolly (BAJR). They discuss the current risks to archaeology and explore some of the ways to overcome them the panel are joined by representatives from key organisations within the discipline to explore a range of issues, Kate Geary (CIFA), Neil Redfern (CBA) and Kenneth  Aitchison (FAME). The panel also discuss what you can do to help protect archaeology’s future and how future archaeologist might shape the discipline. 

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Hosted by Lawrence Shaw and Derek Pitman

Artwork by Ed Hudspeth

Sound production and theme tune by Guy Dowsett (

This episode we are joined by Dr Toby Driver, Senior Investigator (Aerial Survey) at the Royal Commission Wales. Toby discusses his career in archaeology, how he got into aerial research and how the process works. We also discuss a number of things that have caught our attention, including the passing of Victor Ambrus (Time Team), the lost stone circle of Stonehenge and the Great British Dig.

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